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Old 02-09-2011, 10:15 PM
Karls48 (Karl)
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From my experience, I would not trust any computer-generated models. Although the outcome of such computer generated model can match the expectations, the process how the outcome has been arrived to can not be understand and given sufficient number of iterations same outcome could be arrived to by using different internal process. Long time ago, I wrote program to predict OZ Lotto draws. My reasoning was that in infinite possibilities of random numbers generated by Lotto draws there should be random number generator that is resonant to Lotto numbers generating machine. The program looked on all past draws and by using kind of genetic algorithm try to made random numbers generator that is in synch with actual outcome. Well, by playing System 8 for two years my loss was around $140. That is way above probabilities outcome.
Why I am telling you this. Well, by changing one line in my program the process would be completely different, but outcome could be same.

Craig – question to you. You are believer in chaos theory. The butterfly flaps its wings – and so on. What will happen when tens of thousands wind generators generating GigaWatts of power will disturb airflow across the globe? What will happen when thousands of hectares of the soil are shaded by solar panels? What effect that will have on global weather? Can computer generated model answer this?

I don't think that getting the word out to the masses is necessarily a good thing, considering that 98% of the masses wouldn't understand where the word was coming from. Most people have trouble just getting through an average day, let alone having to deal with chaos and non linear systems theory in their daily lives. So long as they are given a general idea of what is trying to be conveyed to them, most are quite content to leave it at that. Even there, most usually don't get what's being told to them and the reason why you get all the nonsense you see with science reporting and such, these days.
All the complicated business they leave up to those that actually can understand and use it.


Carl – although I really admire and appreciate your knowledge and your holistic approach to the science – I think that you are bit too harsh in this comment. Not everyone is a complete idiot even if they never went to University and do not have PHD. Most of the people with some sort of technical education will ready accept applied science/technology. It is when it comes to speculative fields of science (Cosmology – Big Bang, Dark Mater, Dark Energy, Expanding Universe and number of other theories I can not thing of right now) when people start question the science. Although, those theories are best what we can come up with at this time, holistically thinking – they are most likely wrong.

Avandok – Thanks for the link. For long time I have believed that, there may be an electrolyte that can store and be recharged by solar energy. I tried and nothing seems to work. It did not come to my mind that the plain water could be the answer.
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