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Originally Posted by Bassnut
WHAT a con, notice the lighting difference between the 2 positions?.
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Don't like the example eh Fred ? That's Ok ..I have no particular attachment to the example ..there are plenty of others able to make the point .. which is the real issue.
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Originally Posted by Bassnut
To extrapolate that to "We humans are convinced that we see the world as it really is, but that’s complete rubbish" is trite,arrogant BS and utterly meaningless.
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That you didn't see the irony behind these comments and then went on to the following one, is heartening though …
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Originally Posted by Bassnut
Well, I guess adverse preconditioning can change perception of the reality of a subject, ill give you that.
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Originally Posted by renormalised
Nothing is real. …. You don't exist. This physical reality is a fake ...
… how do you know that what you perceive isn't another illusion??.
What determines reality. What determines the truth. What allows you to perceive reality and truth through experience.
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… all valid perspectives, but ya gotta live with yourself (and us), man !
… And a terrific answer from Rowland, anyway …
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Originally Posted by rcheshire
However, our senses can be trained to spot the difference.
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I don't think there can possibly be any right or wrong answers to this .. but anything which serves as a pause between our intuitions/perceptions and the establishment of reality in our minds, surely brings us closer to reality!?!
Science is the best thing I know of, which can do that.
(Mathematics, more specifically).
My new signature then is a reminder for me about how to distance myself from the misperceptions inherent in Science.
The true illusion comes from beliefs … and opinion.
Cheers