I took out my new second hand scope tonight that I got from taxman thanks mate
when I got it I pulled it apart that was scary
but taxman had told me it was out of collimation I found out why it had some thin cardboard under the corrector plate that was causing this. I didn't use it for long tonight just a test really I am taking it out with our group tomorrow I placed the tripod roughly south and found Saturn WOW
collimation beautiful alignment was almost perfect suprisingly. I could easily see the gap between the planet and the rings and I have almost convinced myself I could see the cassini division. Anyway it is a great scope a Intes Micro Mak Cas 5" and I was very impressed with the first view.