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Old 01-07-2011, 04:39 PM
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strongmanmike (Michael)
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Your point is well taken Mike.
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I guess while I generally tend towards human climate influenced denial
Here in lies the problem mate....

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That is where I am I guess. I am fairly certain I will never understand what is going on.... because I did not train as a climate scientist.
Sorry I just don' get it, so why do you question teh findings of a body who's job it is to do the assesment of the the available scientific evidence for you, something you clearly wish you had a handle on?

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however the logic I learnt at Uni taught me to question blanket truths
The issue of climate change is not a blanket truth, the overall assesment of the data is very clear, how can you doubt this even for a second? Again with all due respect, even considering fringe claimed anomolies like phosphorus from weapons and Co2 from volcanoes etc is at best kind of clutching at straws, like you really don't want to change your mind no matter what..?

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and not to believe everything the government says. Politicians cannot be trusted to lie straight in bed, much less get the information right.
It's not the governemnt that is telling you that climate change is real and humans are causing it it is the IPCC et al, the government is just acting on this information to develop policy to tackle it...?


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Despite what many think is a blantant truth, I still see variability that bucks against the trends. I am however, happy to be proven wrong though at any time.
To be honest I think you have a bias wall up to prevent this ...read the IPCC report check the references, then compare this to the web site that this thread started from, compare it against The Bolt Report, compare it against, 2UE and 2GB radio anouncer claims etc that are heavily influencing the public opinion on this. Keep your university training hat on and pretend you are doing an asignment and review the available research and see what your advice would be to your lecturer on climate change and its causes. Remember, I am happy that the IPCC has done this but you are not, so try it, do it properly.

Just an idea

Mike
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