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Old 26-06-2011, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by renormalised View Post
Yes, I can say this and despite the fact that an education is science was, at one stage, a privilege, the fact that quite a few inventions have come from people with no formal training in science is as true today as it was back then.
So what of ceramic tiles for the space shuttle, graphene, doped silicon, computer screen materials, heat shields for space probes, jet turbine blades etc … the point requires balance … and there's plenty of evidence to balance it up !
My point is that inventions require lots of effort to make them a society-benefitting success. Education assists the inventor to participate in the realisation of that benefit and thereby justifies them in claiming the benefits which stems from their expending that effort.

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch thesedays.
To think there is .. is a delusion.


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Originally Posted by renormalised
Yes it is the counter argument, but that hardly invalidates the theory, not does it invalidate the work of scientists. All it means is that sometimes the truly revolutionary inventions don't come from formally trained scientists simply because they're taught to think in certain ways. They have the scientific method to guide them and their knowledge in their specific field to inform them. That can be both a help and an hindrance at the same time.
Not a hinderance ... a burden … and that burden is still there even for the uneducated inventor .. just as Mr Ward is finding out.

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Originally Posted by renormalised
Being in a structured and ordered society has nothing to do with it. In his case, being in a society that would ripoff an inventor in order for the elite within it to profit from the inventor's ideas, is. Despite his seeming selfishness in wanting "too much" for what he came up with, he has every right to want what he did. After all, it was his idea in the first place. Plus, why should this big corporations and governmental organisation unfairly profit from something they had no idea about in the first place. wanting to tie things up in non disclosure agreements and such, especially where the government is concerned, usually means they're up to no good. Ward wants everyone to benefit from this, not just a few.
Are you saying that Ward isn't attempting to 'tie things up in non-disclosure agreements' ???
He has that right, too … and he knows it ..
The issue is a debate over the value of what he's discovered.
And until its commercialised by having endured the burden of proof, it has little value.

Cheers

Last edited by CraigS; 26-06-2011 at 12:07 PM. Reason: typo
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