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Old 23-03-2011, 07:51 PM
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Ok Craig,

Life needs water;

every where we look we find water, even on our moon which was for a long time thought to be arid. The universe creates water, the universe stores water, the universe uses water on and between the planets and all living being that we know of... which are a part of the universe use water.
The universe does not need water. It is a by-product of what goes on inside it. Sorry Brian. Fail.

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life needs energy

Eta Carina, the Trapezium, all suns and some planets are putting out huge amounts of energy . The universe has an energy supply

a cell or structure that separates itself from the environment.
The Universe does not require energy as it serves no purpose !
Fail.

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internally we have cell like structures in solar systems and galaxies. To the best of my knowledge main line science sees a border that encompasses our universe that separates it from what is not in our universe. If there are multiple universes then the separation is even more obvious.
Brian .. we've had this out before … in BBT, there is no "outside" the universe. There is no bound in the present Cosmological model. Fail.

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storing and reproducing the blue print

there are a limited number of star and galaxy types which indicates to me that there could be a blue print that is both stored and followed.
Cool. How is what is inside your mind relevant to the Universe (as a cause)?
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conversion of stuff into protein

I am guessing here she is referring to feeding the body? Which when you think about it is what happens to the universe when it, through gravity, collects stellar gasses et al and eventually produces a new star which feeds the energy needs of the universe.
No .. she means PROTEINS ! It has a very specific definition in science. Check it out !
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must be able to respond to Darwinian evolution

as we are all part of the universe and we all respond to Darwinian evolution there does not seem to be a problem here. But on a grander scale when multiple galaxies interact and the strongest survives or when a black hole consumes by claw and tooth all around it, surely Darwinian evolution comes into play. And if there are multiple universes and they collide or merely interact surely once again the hairy face of Darwin is resurrected.
This is stretching it a bit Brian.
There is no particular 'fittest' in the universe. Matter is neither created nor destroyed, it merely changes state.
Fail.

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As I said Craig I believe a reasonable hypothetical case can be made for a living universe but just how to take the universes blood pressure is beyond me.
That's Ok Brian .. you can believe whatever you like.
This doesn't even rate as a hypothesis, as it has no basis of reality, other than in your, (and only your), mind.

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