Thanks Itchy, i will look at an auto guider, depending on the $$ of course.
I got another session in this morning, and from what i could tell by the lack of twinkle in the stars, the seeing would have been easy 8-9/10.
Polar aligned, then again and again, third time lucky, i aimed at Orion again and took a few images.
1.5-3 minute exposures at between 400-800 and 1600 ISO.
Got a bit more detail in the images, both images are a stack of four.
Happy for people to play with these images, i am limited at the amount of detail i can pull out of them.