Thanks for the clarification Craig.
Astroguy,
The following might have some relevance to your enquiry:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80...-the-big-bang/
There were two concurrent threads on this earlier in the forum:
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...hlight=penrose
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...hlight=penrose
Mark C.