Wow, thanks for the warm welcome and quick replies everyone, it's all very helpful and appreciated

I think after reading everyones post I will look into getting him the 8" dob skywatcher

the 10" is very tempting to get him however if he does want to upgrade then there is possibly not much reason to get him the 10" over the 8"
The skywatching session sounds like a great idea however I am located in tassie so we have alot less opportunity, plus I would really love to keep it a surprise and I'm more than happy if he upgrades down the track
Also ballaratdragon thanks for the effort you put in about a reply

, I have done that before on the car forums I frequent and it's such a pain!