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Old 26-01-2011, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xelasnave View Post
Thanks Carl.
I can not imagine a field to be static. It may be the only way we can reduce the concept to manageable terms for math and human understanding but how could it be static... I can not prove this but I will bet that all fields produce their force by the movement of particles... if not we can only get a force by relying on magic..the magic of math which can quantify but does not explain the mechanics. What is happening in a magnetic field ( dont we need some bosens or something moving around?).. some would say its just a field but just play with a magnet and iron dust for hours and you get the feeling a field is no way static.... just my view and guys I know this is belief which does not count so dont worry about my digression.

All I am trying to understand however is how the HBs live and get around and although the math is the best way to understanding I am hopeful I can get a visualization of how it may all work.

alex
A field, Alex, is like a potential. It has the ability to be something even when there is no disturbance to make it something. That something which drives the change across the field is another potential, so the Higgs Field, in this case, interacts with another field...let's say a particle field. Both induce a change across their respective fields of particular intensities...the particle field produces a proton (let's say) and the higgs field a higgs particle. The higgs particle transfers energy to the proton giving it mass and the proton sets up a "ripple" in the higgs field, generating more higgs particles which in turn give more protons mass. This keeps going until the potentials stop interacting and the disturbance dissipates. Since protons always have mass and a "real" existence, the higgs particles/field are always interacting with the protons. Same with the protons and gravity...add more protons, get more gravity and so the interactions between the particles and the gravitational field increases. So there is a connection between the Higgs Field and the gravitational field via the protons. However, gravitons have no mass, so they don't interact with the Higgs Field....neither do photons.

The "force" within a field is not because it's made up of particles that move, it's essentially a disturbance or movement of information (in this case a change in energy). The particles which may form from the disturbance don't move at all. They only carry the energy of the disturbance and pass it on to the next particle. It's the disturbance which moves...the exchange of information between particles.

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