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Interestingly, my point is that there seems to be relationship between one's goals (in a discussion) and the use of logic. Steven's example is to achieve a higher 'signal-to-noise'. Politicians, I think actually seek to decrease the signal-to-noise.
But there seems to be an implicit relationship between a quest for 'truth' and the application of logic to get there.
I have maintained that Science is not about 'Truth'.
Hmm …
Cheers
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