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well JakJak, without being rude, what is your budget? you might be better off with a nice pair of binoculars, say 12-36 by 70mm that lee andrews has for $149.00, and get a nice tripod to take them on better value!!. Don't waste your money on el-cheapo refractors or Catadioptric scope of that size. Normally you would start from 90mm and upwards for one of those scopes.
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