[hotspur (Chris)]

Thanks Dennis.

I had a quick look at those-I see a free trail version so might give that a go.

I suspect this CS5 can do a great deal,perhaps a fair portion of what those plug in can do,just a matter of trying to learn how to use it.

I see images and they have a 'super smooth' look and feel to them,I am not sure what has been done to them.

Cheers Chris