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Methinks peter has won this battle, time to get some bigger guns mike..... 12 inch reflector perhaps
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Yes I am just flattered that Peter decided to post his version straight after I posted mine, this far out from M104 season t'is a remarkable coincidence

...the war thing was coined by Houghy not me, I just ran with the gag

. Yes even though the final appearence looks rather painted and the orange core glow not real, the detail in Peters image is astonishing...almost too good

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Mike