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yep I agree Alex - seems like a lot of good people caught up in a bad idea
what upsets me a little about these groups also - is the Elders and Leaders were widely reported to have instructed their congregations on who to vote for in federal and so forth elections en masse - this is a substantial amount of people when focussed in that way
(George Bush was widely reported to have got over the line in the last U.S election thanks to these type of instructions)
that changes evrything when they become pro-active political animals - starting political parties, seeking earthly power, seeking influence on public policy ect. -
( indeed even putting the current leader of the free world in his job ) - then they enter the public arena and are fair game like evryone else.
I dont remember my brand X instructing people who to vote for from the pulpit, and that they would go to hell if they didnt? sure you knew what their political bent was, if you looked hard enough - but they didnt shove it down your throat
I thought voting was sacricant in a democracy and was purely a matter between ones own conscience and the ballot box - not an organised group - isnt that almost unconstitutional?
I only mention this to point out we are not talking about some suffering, persecuted bunch of powder puffs that cant defend themselves really
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