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Originally Posted by Stu
So what you want is something bigger than the ED80 but you're too impatient for a dob?
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It's not about impatience, because the Dob never gets there. I'd be willing to wait a specified length of time, be that 15 mins or 2 hours, if it meant nice steady images at the EP. But the Dob rarely delivers. So I opt for a large-ish (3-5") refractor, or a small-ish (6-10") Dob with "Bird"-style active cooling, for home use.