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Your 5" should get NGC253 BUT you will need dark skies to do it, you wont get it in suburbia. Ditto with the Veil - light pollution will kill it dead. In a dark sky a filter like an 0III will help, but again it must be a dark sky. In these cases it's not the magnification thats a factor - indeed, the Veil is so big you want the lowest mag possible - but aperture that's a problem. Rob's probably made the best suggestions (above) for you at the moment.
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