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Originally Posted by Karls48

Although I do not agree with Alex’s Push gravity or other Alex’s Electric Universe I think that Alex makes very valid point about faith and science. It is not “circular logic” but rather holistic point of view based on life long observations of human society. Over and over in those discussions emerges the point of view that separates scientists from reset of the humanity. They do not have normal human failings. They are incorruptible, without self-interest and so on, with only the truth and nothing else then truth in they minds. Something like the politicians do like to present themselves. Well, regardless what path in our life we follow; we are only humans with all the faults (to large or lesser extend) that being human implies.

Let me read in between the lines.

Since human nature has crept into this thread, let's throw in the Tall Poppy Syndrome for good measure. Scientists make easy targets for individuals who resent the fact that they (the scientists) may excel in areas that are beyond others.
It's interesting that you should equate scientists with politicians given that it is human nature to resent individuals that are in positions of power irrespective of how good or bad the individual may be.

It got to the point when any other scientific discipline other then physics and mathematics is looked upon as if it was lesser science. History, Psychology and the Philosophy is just kind of pseudo science nonsense. Although they don’t say that, they imply it in their conclusions.

They don't say it but they imply it..... Who are "they" exactly and why should this be the case.

For your information Philosophy makes up a large percentage of Mathematics.

Inflation theory wasn't developed by a cosmologist or a mathematician but by a particle physicist. The mechanism behind co-valent chemical bonding wasn't done chemists but by physicists and mathematicians. The synthesis of increasing heavier elements in nucleur physics is a task performed by both physicists and chemists. There are stacks of other examples. One of the strengths of science is the co-operation between different disciplines.

What is your opinion based on?

The theoretical scientists are themselves to blame for ever-rising dissident against their theories and conclusions. If they communicated their theories in the form – according to our current level of technology and our understandings the Universe seems to work like this – it would be more acceptable then saying – we measured light curve of A1 supernova and there for GR and BB are correct (I do realise it is not as simple as this).

The appeal to the common man is one of the mantras of pseudoscience.
Science doesn't have to convince Mr Average or engage in popularity contests. If 99% of the population doesn't understand GR it doesn't make GR wrong. Ninety nine percent of the population doesn't understand brain surgery either, yet the vast majority will put their lives in the hands of a skilled surgeon if necessary.

Few hundreds or thousands years from now most of conclusions of today’s Cosmology will be just as laughable as the concept of the Earth being centre of the Universe is today.

And you know this? The ancient Greeks to their credit at least attempted to rationalize the Universe unlike those who know nothing at all or left it to the supernatural.

Newton's theories have been around for 300 years, no one is laughing yet.

Steven