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Originally Posted by CraigS
Oh boy … here we go again .. !
I've mellowed a bit lately, Alex .. probably a result of eating a bit of humble pie over the last couple of weeks. Also from wrangling with Bert who has no room for faith (especially in Science) and Carl, who believes life can exist on an exoplanet in a 'habitable zone' and Alex (EU) who's into modelling.
So I think I might not bite this time !!
Let me ask ya a useful question … Do you think IIS would benefit from having an Alternative Science Forum, which would allow your kinds of ideas to develop and be tempered ?
I know some consider this heresy but its only a question to one of those who I can see might enjoy such a forum.
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I think an Alternative Science section sounds appealing but I feel the
reason for implementing such is the only matter that needs to be addressed.
AND that reason has more to do with managing personalities as opposed to doing something constructive with alternatives available.
I believe no one even in this most wonderful age has all the answers irrespective of the evidence they present.
GR EU or PU probably all hint at a truth we will never arrive at...
I am always suspicious of someone who believes they really have all the answers and even more suspicious of someone who explains all in the context of their beliefs to the exclusion of alternatives..that is a religious approach and when science becomes dogmatic it becomes even less than religion.
the problem for humans not science but the way humans site their beliefs as solid science...how many folk site GR and dont have a clue whats contained in the 11 field equations..they believe it is right on others views not their own investigation.... and I am not saying GR is not correct but how many folk understand it..few..
Science is as it is and how we interpret observations is what we need to be careful about...and clearly irrespective of your universe we all have the propensity to cherry pick to establish our view over others... GR is as guilty as Eu in my view but it is the people not the science where the problem lays.
I think this forum works very well simply because it enables folk with different approaches to interact... I think we have a wide selection of people who read or participate... and therefore learn of others views and approaches...
Folk think science is infallible (and it is without humans) such that anything that suggests that the humans working upon that science were wrong means we need an alternative...when in truth there will be only one truth... I like to think that science unlike religion and politics is open to various interpretations.
Big bang is a theory with a great deal of evidence in support and is right or wrong but how will we ever know...we can not so to hold anything as alternative suggests BB is fact beyond question... I dont think science can be happy with closing off inquirey and to settle upon something as fact is stupid.
This forum only suffers from folk getting upset with others not accepting the view they present as correct... I dont care if my views are not accepted and I dont need to destroy the EU in order to push a PU or a GR universe... I like to think I can learn something from everyone who makes a comment... be that a a fact or to observe good or objectionable behavior ... live and let live, treat all with respect irrespective of your belief that they are wrong or right.
If I were to only be involved in say alternative science sites (alternative cosmology site is a great example) I would become opposed to GR and never learn about it ... I am sure GR Eu and PU all have something of value so segregating "science beliefs" may not be useful to me personally.
Being mellow is good to provide the patience to suffer a view one can find offensive to held beliefs and maybe give time to hold respect for the presenter of even for the craziest of ideas...
alex