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Originally Posted by CraigS
If you can demonstrate (& convince the community) that the model fits the description from Wiki I forwarded you in my last post, then I would have no objections !! I'd be a believer !! (Not that this counts for much ..  )
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Craig I have no desire or need to convince anyone of anything
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All that is important is that folk understand I am right
and for them to also realize their approach will be no different than mine
... few believe the reality they have constructed is not the best and the most correct...my study of science politics religion and humans in general suggest this to me.
I have learn t that finally even science depends a great deal upon belief and faith ...and I know folk get outraged if one suggests our science requires faith and belief but those folk must accept that even science is subject to such mechanics of interpreting our "reality". The advantage with science is there is observation and evidence to support the beliefs we arrive at... but finally a belief is born and when that belief plays in the game the evidence that brought that belief into being is not dragged out for review.. that is the beauty of belief we believe our science and the painstaking methods, experiments etc that got us to this point such that we do not need to review it daily...that is good and it is a pity that religion and politics dont follow the opposite
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AND that means ...if you accept that your belief is say gravity works via attraction then nothing I say do to prove the opposite will change your mind..because my approach offends a basic belief... (that a force of attraction is available to explain observations)..my belief is simply that the observations support push rather than attraction...much like the EU folk have a basic belief as to how it woks we all hold a basic belief..it simply comes down to belief in so many respects and belief can not be changed from external pressure it can only come from change within..a personal thing we could say...I doubt if someone from EU will all of a sudden abandon the premise of electricty controls everything because their belief turns on that point... Just as with GR inspite of its complexity there is a point of acceptance that it is valid..so we believe in it and our experiments etc support the belief that it works.
I site the arguments that go on within the realms of current and acceptable and legitimate science but upon areas less contentious... there are various views within and upon big bang theory and yet all subscribe to the idea as such but the big bang will remain a given and it is the finer points that may come into argument.. scientist will have different views even when the nature of science suggests there will only be one truth...well there is only one truth but who knows what it is really.
As to areas that suggest extreme gravity (black holes) I can only present a model of something that one can not see other than relating its presents to observations of its apparent effect on bodies nearby
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alex