[rumples riot]

hmmm, I think that we are being made to return to the 1950s. In reality we have never lived in a free and open society, its all an illusion to keep the masses quiet. Religion serves this purpose as well. Science does this also to some degree. Can anyone of us really prove any scientific theory? Can anyone prove that god does or does not exist? Both I believe have an emphatic no attached to them.

Funny, the introduction of oppressive legislation to hold "terrorists" or have powers that a draconian, New legislation to control Unions and workers and now teach the kiddies ID theory. Just like going back to the 50's. Seems that is a pretty fair indication of where our society is headed. The people that Australians voted for, have decided that we need to feel safe and warm and that a return to these values are necessary. That's the way forward. So much for science. Knowledge is power; no knowedge is now dangerous!!!

I tend to agree that the fossil record has many problems, that said though, even if you say the earth is 6000 years old, how did the fossils get there and why are there no fossils of modern man in amongst the Dinosaurs or Ediacrean (spelling ?) fossils? I think both the evolutionary arguments and the creationist arguments have loads of holes in them. No one theory will stand up to heavy scrutiny. There is no proof definitively either way. Religion is irrational, science is pragmatic. Nothing is certain.

Maybe science like religion is just another form of brain washing. Maybe non of our theories are really correct, after all; we can't even travel frequently to the moon, much less the stars, how are we to know what is real and what is unreal. Its all subjective. Perhaps in 5000 years we will be looked upon as quaint neanderthals with a lust for power and little understanding of the real universe. Much less what is actually going on.

Hmmmmm. What is so bad about teaching ID theory? Well nothing really, Both science and religion are largely unproven in my mind, I can't say catagorically that all science is correct, theories change, Gods change. Funny if we were completely wrong about most things!!!!