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Old 29-08-2010, 11:03 AM
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My parents told me not to discuss religion or politics with folk because it could get heated but I always said how could such be so if only reasonable people were in the discussion. One would think science would not be a problem but here we are getting very personal.

I see how passionate everyone is about "science" and their views on who is right who is wrong and it is sad that discussions on science can fall into an scrappy argument.

Who is to say who is right and who is wrong ...would it not be more pleasant for all not to be so aggressive to any idea that does not fit ones personal belief as to what science tells us.... science will always be right but humans can place incorrect interpretation upon even the most solid science...so I suggest as right as we feel we may be there is always a small chance that we could actually be wrong.

Lets not abuse our freedom of speech and expression by abandoning respect for other folks points of view.

I can understand the frustration that each of the parties generate in the other but it does not have to be this way.

I visited Thunderbolts and I gained the impression of lack of respect for much of our science but left it before I could determine if such lack of respect went to failure to respect the scientists who worked hard to bring us out of the dark ages... irrespective of validity of view point respect should be offered to all even if you don't think their views are correct.

I have a mate who is a tarot card reader and although I think that stuff is nonsense I give him the respect that he believes in what he does... there is no point in me trying to change his view and therefore no reason for me to get upset because he has ideas at complete opposite to mine.

If nothing else we could all be friends and remain nice.

I have reflected upon the ways I may upset people and can understand how folk may see my methods as abrasive and so I try to change my approach to be less abrasive and demonstrate the respect for others I hold but hidden because of a ruff style.

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Science, Alex, is about data....what's there in front of the observer and what then can be verified. That is our beef with the EU, they have no verifiable information at all from any of the observation. Just speculation that crosses over into fantasy on many occasions. They then use what science they find that is not mainstream and claim it supports their views, but a look at what that science says shows otherwise. Anyway, enough of that because it's been said a million times.

You wonder if they disrespect the scientist....yes, they do and they're rather brazen and ridiculous about it. They're a group of ignoramuses and idiots, Alex. That might sound harsh to you but that's what they are.
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