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Old 28-08-2010, 02:08 PM
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Gravity does not Suck

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My problem with push gravity was I did not find out that Le Sage had come up with the idea back in 1745...up to that point I thought it was my original idea and that it was my duty to humanity to push the idea.

I do like the push concept and am confident it will replace all current "pull" models... so confident in fact that I have ceased pushing the push gravity concept and am happy to wait until everyone else catches up with the game.

Although it was soul crushing to find my idea was not new but in fact very old it did not destroy my determination to find out how gravity works... in that journey I have learn t a great deal about the current bank of knowledge which I see as a good thing. But I am convinced humans know little about gravity and as far as I can tell there is no mechanical explanation...we have gravitons as candidates but to date they are little more than speculation...
Anyways the more I think about how a field must work I can not see that a field can operate other than via a push system ..look at a magnetic filed for example clearly push at work...
BUT lets be clear it is an idea it is not science as all point out ...and when you think about what I am working on it is no less than a theory of everything...now just coming up with a very limited hypothesis on a theory of everything would take many volumes... how could you limit a hypothesis on everything to a couple of lines...so given the complexity etc I see no reason to take it all so seriously and find reasons why it can not work or reasons why it could work but to appreciate that we do not understand gravity...for all our science we know nothing really...GR says nothing about how the gravity field is built...what is it made from...a field I believe is a flow of particles and I think that is reasonable and the accepted way of understanding a field... so how does a gravity field actually work...and I realize we can only chat but so far in all the years I have been on about this no one has offerred a machinery..what particles are exchanged ? how is the message of gravity communicated betweern objects?GR says we should see it as a bending of space..whatever..but how is it bent what particles come into play..if there is a graviton how will it work.... and the hardest question for me is...if a black hole has almost infinite gravity how can it release a messenger particle to tell the rest of the universe of its being??? if a photon can not escape how will our graviton escape? and even if we merely speculate upon this aspect I can not think of a better to[pic for a chat...with or without beer.
I know as scientists all are no happy to speculate and that is good but where else can you start? Observation you say... well observe the pioneer..they are not doing what we expect..we need to fit the science to that specific observation not fit the "science" with the observation...at the moment it seems like its the pioneer at fault as they are not doing what out sums dictate...maybe the sums need review is my point and to answer that one we must ask more of our understanding of gravity.

alex
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