I have a 16" home built Truss Dobsonion with which I have had the best views of Jupiter and Saturn I have ever seen

Ask some of the attendies at Astrofest

Can I say that if you want to go down the visual route buy the mirror and build it yourself or get someone to build it for you

that way you control the situation.

Most mass produced telescopes are built to a price not quality

You cannot get a Rolls Royce for a Holden price

cheers