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Old 16-08-2010, 02:59 PM
Jarvamundo (Alex)
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Nope...no black holes, no neutron stars, no white dwarfs, stars are powered by galactic scale birkeland currents generating z-pinches in plasmas, they don't explode etc etc etc....and a whole lot of other nonsense.
Carl is correct here (wow i said it), with regard to PC.

#1 Black holes

1) No body has ever found a black hole. Never. Zip.
2) Black holes (hilberts error) are not permitted by Schwartzchild actual solution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4GFAjX62Yg

With the empirical plasma z-pinch you can describe the centers of galaxies, you can both computer model, AND produce this in the lab.

#2 Neutron Stars (should we be leaving out strange stars?
These fantasticly spinning (25% speed of light) super heavy stars, which include SPEED UPs, SPEED Downs, Frequency "glitches".... are well a bit of a stretch...

EU proposes a relaxation oscillator. That is a real thing, any freshman can assemble. No super dooper spinning, No never-observed neutron hand holding, beyond empirical possibilities.

#3 Other stars

In this case the HR diagram can be replaced by current density.

Professor Don Scott, recently invited to present at NASA has put together this page. The details are best left to his explantions here:
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/hrdiagr.htm

#4 Stars don't explode?
This is well catered for, and is actually the foundation of Hannes Alfvens works.... ie he was employed to work on exploding plasma in power distribution. I thought you said you were aware of this? This was the foundation of his work, lead to MHD and his Nobel? Heard of exploding double layers?

Exploding stars are an EM "dipole" phenomina.... all you need to do is look at a picture of an exploding star, and you will [mostly] see an Hour Glass... This is DIPOLE in nature.... NOT neutral GAS + gravity. Also take a look at the high energy radiation produced by the acceleration in plasma double layers. I think this was discussed with Stephen in another thread here on IIS. "Brake radiation"

Other bits
Have a look at the rotation curve of a galaxy spiral that does not ignore EM (google Peratt). (Much like the work B Gaensler Syd Uni is currently measuring resultant magnetic fields of this EM)... and you will see that No dark matter is needed.

"whole lot of nonsense"
like creation from nothing? worm holes? divide by zero black holes? 25% of speed of light spinning stars, dark matter, dark energy..... good luck with that.

The distaste for such concepts certainly has not been limited to me in this thread. A fair few of us, are not happy with these gravity-only dark mysteries, and search for solutions, i am simply sharing on i have come across after joining IIS to further my investigations. Dark, black theories remain there for anyone soo inclined. And all the best to you.

All that is required with PC is that the models keep in mind that charge-separation does exist on large scales. This is currently not catered for in the neutral gas models that dominate gravity only cosmology.

PC ignore gravity? certainly not.... all it's doing is also acknowledging that 99.99% of matter in the universe is in plasma state. fact. The models simply incorporates EM forces, as per our terrestrial lab experiments, which as mentioned here.... led to the discovery of Birkeland Currents.

yep, you can do it in the lab. yes more needs to be done.

Don't let the anti-empiric resistance get to you... plasma experiments scale very well... this ofcourse is well known to plasma scientists. Ofcourse we cannot produce a birkeland current on cosmic scales... but if it walks like a duck and quacks...http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...d-terrella.jpg .... then models can be developed that are based on real experience.

Herbert Spencer once said, “There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”

Last edited by Jarvamundo; 16-08-2010 at 03:21 PM.
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