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Originally Posted by Jarvamundo
Thanks Steven, i am intrigued by Narlikars models with regard to the quasar redshift. To me some form of Bohr style model seems to be in action with regard to the observed quasar redshift quantisation.
I'm interested to see other ideas and solutions if you have them.
Increasingly i'm not convinced that these quasars are not at the distances implied by their redshift. This time dilation just adds to it.
I'm aware of the technique, you have comments and questions regarding this [particular] paper Steven? Or is this just the 'application of the technique' confidence level.... style broad comment?
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So, I'm going to break my silence here.
OK Alex, you know what this is. I've made it large so you can see what's there, just so there's no ambiguous nonsense to be bandied about with the results of this survey. Now, where's your Bohr Model like redshift quantisation here, Alex. Where's the evidence for discrete bands of quasars at preferred distances all nice and neatly delineated by a shell like structure. Can you see it Alex, in the survey data or has there been a conspiracy to hide it from the scientific community and the public. Add a few more data points to hide the patterns...that's the sort of answers I'd expect from the EU crowd. Or is this just all "sheer nonsensical filth" as you so blithely labeled another paper over at
thunderbolt.info. What, is everything you don't agree with that actually relates to real science filth, nonsensical and any one of a number of other labels I've seen yourself and the rest of your compatriots over at these sites label science and the authors of those papers.
For anyone interested, here is the paper so decried...
http://arxiv.org/abs/1006.5394
Galaxy Formation Theory
Authors: Andrew J. Benson (1) ((1) California Institute of Technology)
(Submitted on 28 Jun 2010 (v1), last revised 12 Jul 2010 (this version, v2))
Let's look at when most of these papers that you want to refer to came out. For anyone interested you can go here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift_quantization
to read and download the respective papers. You will note that most of these papers were written before the large scale z surveys on both quasars and galaxies were done in the late 90's. You can also go here...
http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND.../0/1/0/all/0/1
To find some papers on redshift quantisation. Also note the repetition of the same authors espousing the same views. Important as it shows where each author is coming from.
Here is also papers about quasar clustering you can look at...
http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND.../0/1/0/all/0/1
or quasars in general...
http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+quasars/0/1/0/all/0/1
And if you need further evidence.... click on below (doesn't want to paste here). That's a similar survey done on galaxies. If anything, the periodic redshifts would show up in this and other galaxy survey even more strikingly simply because of the far larger numbers of galaxies involved in the surveys. Where's the Bohr Model shells here, Alex. Despite some obvious clustering in the galaxies measured, there is none. And, there are even more recent surveys, some done on quasars, which show no periodicity, as well as many other interesting things....
SDSS DR7 Data
And if anyone is interested in where the figures came from, here are the sites for those...
2D Quasar Survey and
2D Galaxy Survey