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Old 10-08-2010, 02:53 PM
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Gravity does not Suck

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Originally Posted by bojan View Post
Alex,
On what exactly you are basing your statement that gravity attraction is an illusion?

And.. No-one, ever said GR is perfect. It is just that we don't have better theory yet, every scientist will tell you that.
Hi Bojan I though folks saw GR as somewhat perfect but maybe I have formed an incorrect idea given your statement. I do feel there are many who hold it up to be the key to all understanding and in that regard have maybe elevated it to a level higher than its author believed it could ever reach. For me it is one of the things out there one must take into account when discussing the universe, its origins etc. and I would rather deal with it than introduce religion in an attempt to find an answer.

I maintain the force of attraction is not proven and to this end I have searched for an experiment that proves such a force is real, and over the years I have asked for someone to point to an experiment that shows attraction is a force. To date I have no knowledge of any experiment that shows there is a force that we call attraction....and so I say there is no force of attraction but happy to hear why I may be misguided. I have followed your advice and read and read upon physics and although I am old and useless I can follow how we have arrived at where we are today..

Things work within fields and field can only work via particle flow and push I suggest... I am not advocating an electric universe by the way

I do not think particles or bodies "attract" as I can envisage no mechanism where one body "calls" to another in effect saying..."come here"..

Irrespective of how folks wish to exclaim that attraction is obvious..look at magnets etc I simply say is there an experiment that demonstrates an interaction between bodies can be labeled "attraction" and if such labeling is to be used then I inquire..what is the mechanical process that takes place... things do not happen as if by magic so if attraction is to be held up as a force I simple ask what entitles us to label something as "attraction".

I do admit my preoccupation with a push universe has probably made me a little one sided on this issue. However if we are to be scientific and invoke a force such as attraction I simply say it must be proven before we happily use the term to describe an observation that shows two objects moving toward each other...everyone assumes they are attracted I ask how..if how cant be estqablished then I see no reason to simply assume they attract each other.

Now I have lowered my shield you may strike hard at any part you regard as exposed to correction...but please be gentle

I have to go and help someone so I may have to edit when I get to read what I have said.

alex
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