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Thanks Robin I thought it must be something simple as I normally have no problems with PHD, with me the Octans are blocked by my roofline and I'm yet to work out Alignmaster. Packed up by 12 was getting to frustrated and very cold 3 degree c, after jumping between the East and South trying to pick up targets worth imaging and having problems with PHD. To top it off my neighbour had a wood fire burning and the smoke obstructed anything to the NE.
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