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Old 07-06-2010, 12:12 PM
Jarvamundo (Alex)
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Originally Posted by sjastro View Post
Only the splitter and mirrors rotate. The detector and the source are stationary in the observer's frame of reference.

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Steven
The splitter is the source. I think we are creating an observer here.

Do you have any refs to a closed version experiment?

I'm satisfied with the splitter as the source and pattern as the result being in the frame.... but hey shouldn't we be able to mount a ccd in the experiment to remove the observer that is being created here. Along the lines of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0d7o8X2-E with the sagnac setup

I've seen a paper on this experiment with electrons, but yes reducing errors with particles of charge is difficult... as outlined in that paper.

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very piece of the device, every molecule, every atom and every sub-atomic particle is in it's own frame of reference.

Even if two particles are traveling alongside each other, they are still not in the same frame.

I'm guessing this is why a [hypothetical] Test Particle is assumed to be both infinitely small in size and mass...a true reference point.
Measurements become pointless? hehee

Once you remove c as your limit, all reveals.

To me relativity is a mathematical play on measurements... convenient and i guess fun for some... but does not tell us anything about reality. Time is an invention.
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