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Originally Posted by avandonk
What Nesti said is not the reason or cause. To blame systems failures is simplistic.
To call pilots couch potatoes is a very big call Nesti.
Here is a bloke that knows what he is doing. He did a barrel roll in a 707!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBca...eature=related
Bert
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"couch potatoes"...LOL...you know full-well I was highlighting the contrast between hands-off auto pilot flying/monitoring and hands-on 'dangerous situation' type flying...and I've got nothing against good pilots.
It was a 1G Barrel Roll sometimes called a Shondell...as he remarks, it's safe enough. Tex Johnston freaked everyone out and especially his bosses because he did it while the 707 was still undergoing trials and it's not something you want to advocate with airliners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KNbK...eature=related
"What Nesti said is not the reason or cause. To blame systems failures is simplistic." Ummm, Bert, you might wanna get up-to-speed on what the issue actually is. AF447 is showing us that there may be a possible over-reliance upon fly-by-wire and flight computers, an over-reliance which stems from design philosophies which, are safer in a general sense, but this particular accident may well have been caused because of that reliance. A clue to this, as highlighted in the documentary, was the 15 second delay in the average time it took pilots to advance the throttles from previously experienced similar situations. Is this 15 second delay attributed to fault-finding and diagnosing computer systems. In general terms, are these modern systems distracting pilots when they need to take direct control and fly the aircraft themselves?! THAT is the question being asked Bert.
I remember very well that it's not that easy to simply stop concentrating on a test flight schedule and running diagnostic, and to suddenly bring one's attention to a particular problem (master caution perhaps). As M_Lewis (Mark) pointed-out, there is a delay between being advised and being able to decisively react. The pilots of AF447 received a string of master caution alerts.