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Originally Posted by Jarvamundo
Facts? like empirical ones? I did, I've listed some empirical failures above.
I'm cool with empirical science... How bout you show me they do exist in reality.
I have no doubt mathematics can describe them... I'm more interested in reality tho.
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Empirical failures? Is there a statute of limitation before an experiment is deemed a failure?
It took 26 years from prediction to discovery of the neutrino, 21 years for the top quark.
Your argument is pure argumentum ad ignorantiam.
http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/ignorance.html
With regards to mathematics being nothing more a descriptive tool, is an ill informed comment.
Here is of the role of mathematics in physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether's_theorem
Your avoidance of showing why GR fails only reinforces argumentum ad ignorantiam.
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Dark energy and dark matter are mathematical descriptions of how far off empirical reality is from fitting the mathematical model we call standard.
How far off? well thats the definition of DM and DE
BBC Documentary - Even the cosmologists admit this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge6RjTgyLr0
You've got no idea what Dark Matter "IS" same with Dark Energy, the best empirical evidence we have to date is high definition measurements of 'nothing'.
It's misleading to say it "exists" in reality.
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What you have failed to take into consideration is that dark matter and dark energy is cosmology are defined as
effects. The empircal evidence of the
effects of dark matter are the galaxy rotation curves, gravitational lensing etc, dark energy is through the light curves of supernovae of distant galaxies.
As to what dark matter and dark energy actually is, becomes an exercise in particle physics. So blowing one's trumpet that dark matter and dark energy doesn't exist is premature given the history of long experiment/discovery times.
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The verification of GR theory predictions. I was making the point that computers, lasers, highly accurate observational techniques were simply not around when the trophy of GR was held up.
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Bollocks! You have combined two totally unrelated events in order to create the impression of a contradiction. That is so obvious.
Regards
Steven