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Originally Posted by Miaplacidus
Even "LNIB" &c shouldn't command much of a premium either, if you ask me. We all know how much cars depreciate the moment we drive them off the show room floor. There's nothing like knowing you bought it from the shop...
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The difference is that most gear like telescopes and eyepieces doesnt wear out or deteriorate in the same way that cars do. A five year old apo refractor might be as good as the day it was sold if well looked after.
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Incidentally, surely there is a difference between a low-ball offer (even one deemed to be insulting) and a rip-off. Rip-off implies an attempt to deceive someone as to the true value of something, and therefore involves exploiting someone else's ignorance.
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It could also be an attempt to probe for and exploit a persons vulnerability.