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Old 16-02-2010, 12:19 AM
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Hi Alexander & All,

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Originally Posted by mental4astro View Post
Tough alright!

Had a go tonight with my 10" f/4.9. It lies directly over the city from my place. Only spotted with a 15mm EP and a nebula filter. Just. Not good seeing either. Even M42 was far below par.

Not a problem with my 17.5" from home. Too easy with such grunt.

Intrigueing to think that Messier spotted this one and missed much brighter objects in forming his first catalogue.
Yes I agree, it is not a particularly easy object from suburbia, though a UHC or OIII filter improves it somewhat and it is certainly visible from suburban Engadine in my old 25cm at low-moderate magnifications with a filter.

It is not really surprising that Messier saw it -- it was almost at Zenith in his sky which was somewhat darker overall that the suburban skies of today. He also saw it while observing a comet that passed almost straight over the nebula! Messier didn't discover it though -- it was found by Bevis about 25 years earlier.

We also have to remember that modern values show the whole nebula is now about 13ly across -- a size it has taken 1000-odd years to achieve. Back 250 years ago it was probably more like 8ly across and accordingly would have had higher surface-brightness than now (the integrated brightness is certainly no more than it was 250 years ago and is probably a bit less). In fact, the surface-brightness probably would have been about double then compared to now.

As for nowadays, the red-coloured tendrils that were once the outer envelope of the red-supergiant progenitor star (mainly ionised Hydrogen & Helium) are not really visually observable unless you have a giant telescope. They record well on film and CCD that is much more sensitive to H-Alpha emission.

The part that is more readily visible is the slightly smaller-sized, diffuse, blue emission which is by-and-large powered by synchrotron radiation. Synchrotron radiation is produced by electrons being accelerated within strong magnetic fields (pulsars have extreme magnetic fields) to velocities close to c.


Best,

Les D

P.S 990 -- nearly there!!

Last edited by ngcles; 16-02-2010 at 11:58 PM. Reason: Really lousy typing, spelling and grammar
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