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25 years ago this was one of the first objects I looked at with a homemade 6" Newt from Sunbury and made out a small smudge, no problems. After 25 years of increased light pollution I struggle to see it from the same location with 8" Dob. Also after 25 years my trees have grown. Haven't tried it with the 16" yet as every opportunity I get there is either a Moon, or cloud, or work etc.
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