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Old 05-02-2010, 11:28 AM
Jarvamundo (Alex)
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Heheh all good... it probably needed 3 or 4 minutes minimum...

The Dirty Snowball Model - "Whipple" Model written in 1950 is available here
http://adsabs.harvard.edu//full/seri...00375.000.html

After reading it, it's entirely focussed on sublimating ice of which according to his theory can only happen with sun heating effects out to 4AU! (we are seeing comet tails far beyond this). Whipple talks about the thick layers of ice required, and the sun-action and heating of jets on the gravitational body.

This is THE MAINSTREAM THEORY... it's what is taught... it's what NASA "experts" expected... It's what they designed their experiments to find!

So what did they find:
* No thick layers of surface-ice (by nasa's stats it's 99.975% NOT ICE!)
* Jets coming from behind and infront of the comet
* Double flash including a pre-impact flash
* Surface features clearly not ice... sublimating ice is not going to form 100m towers, or several KM cliffs.
* NASA designed the camera systems to the specs of this whipple theory... and they failed to take an image of the impact... cos the explosion whited-out their cameras... BIG FAIL guys... BIG FAIL!

This 60 year old theory clearly does not line up with evidence... I don't recon Whipple would continue to push it... with this depth of contrary evidence.

Yes the guy in the video is having a rant at NASA.... the more i read into this and supporting papers... and the timing and delay of NASA releasing their data to other groups... the more i understand his frustration... He is of course an american tax payer... us here in Aus get this essentially free... and with the state of their country now, and mistake with public money will be sensitive... anyways... thats probably more the "why" of the emotion.... I don't really care about that... save the headline... gimme the photos and data!

To me the implications are massive.

1) Where did the water on earth come from.... sorry guys but these comets are rock... try again.
1.1) Hypothesized unobserved Oort cloud... who are you? what are you?... are you going to change what you are made of? are you even there?
2) Why do these comets have iron / high temperature forming materials on them... when they "supposedly formed" out in the extremities of our solar system? FAIL
3) If electrostatic forces are so MASSIVE!(blast) for a TINY... repeat TINY piece of copper being flung at small bodies ice or rock... what are their effects on the bigger pieces... ie these things we call planets...

I could go on... but really this changes the model big time...

Einstein: "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious"