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Old 01-02-2010, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Robh View Post
Alex,

The evidence for GR is, if anything, increasing. The anomalies with the Pioneer craft probably have nothing to do with GR. They remain a mystery and several explanations have been proposed, from gas leakage to dark matter, modified gravity (MOND) to simply errors in measurement and recording over a long time period (30 years of data). One would be wise not to draw any rash conclusions without other corroborating evidence.

Regards, Rob.
Indeed you a correct Rob there is a mass...er a heavy body.. of evidence..that has GR out in front. However if GR has no answer to this one maybe we need to consider more stuff.
I have been reading about this for a while and took the opportunity to update myself as best I could before my post...AND it seems so far we have a genuine anomaly in so far as all the ideas put forward as to radiation, gas leaks etc have been set aside.
Measurement problems seem to point more to a problem than resoolve anything but I point out the craft have not been outside the heliosphere for 30 years and suggest it is the measurements when they left the solar system that could be the only ones considered relevant..it is clear the point they "popped out" I believe and that is not that long ago... the discrepency should be measured against the distance travelled since they left the solar system I would think.
I dont buy MOND and I dont buy dark matter given push has no place for either in its universe

I could be wise but I think it is a quality that I missed and so I jump to the conclusion that given I thought such would happen and it did that I was at least correct in predicting the behaviour as I would suspect of the craft if out there there was more push than within the solar system...still as to more evidence I can not provide any but as we are dealing with an anomaly guessing cant be all bad.

Thanks for your input and wise words.

alex
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