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Old 30-12-2009, 06:17 PM
Nesti (Mark)
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Originally Posted by sjastro View Post
On the subject of maths and behind the scenes action.....

The Standard Model may not be complete but one of it's components, Quantum Electrodynamics, is one of the most profound theories ever devised. The maths is very abstract but given that QE is able to produce theoretical values that are accurate to within 10 parts in a billion of the experimental (actual) values brings up the age old question. Is mathermatics discovered or invented?

Scientists like Paul Davies and the man who should won the Nobel Prize for Physics, Freeman Dyson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_Dyson) point to idea that if maths is a part of nature which is discovered, then nature possesses an intelligence which may indicate the existence of a Supreme Being.

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Steven

Hi Steven,

I agree with you about the Standard Model and QED. What I was alluding to was the possibility of an Einstein/Bohm type Hidden Mechanism for determining one particular outcome over another. To have an array of possible outcomes and assigned probabilities, without a decision making mechanism which determines one outcome over another, is to me, an incomplete theory, because when I look outside the window, I don't see randomness, I see structure and order, and this is again no different to chaos being reclassified as deterministic chaos...it is only chaotic because we are not in possession of the full facts. I feel this is the case with much of QM.

I feel that Bells Inequality is an accidental 'sweeping under the carpet' of the true nature of reality.

M

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