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Thanks fellas,
I'll try to take all that in, the two frames that were posted bare no resemblence to the pics I ended up with . Maybe if you replace all the black with red it would be closer to the point.
I see everyone has their opinions on the best chances of success, Octane.... I will take your advice and then work around all you other folks in turn untill I see some sort of pattern I can grasp.
Again thanks to all.
Brendan seems to be in the know and he is local so If I ask nicely he may come over and give me some pointers I'll be well peeved if the camera is a dud tho but Im guessing its user error.
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