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Originally Posted by fringe_dweller
lol take it easy mate, and you 'c'mon' 
you have already established they are different with names like 'homeless' 'moron who can't control themselves'. implying as lazy drunkards, so which is it, majority of visibly homeless, are problem free? or minority? |
Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough in the post. What I was saying is that many of those people who end up in a homeless state get there because they can't or won't accept responsibility for their own condition. That's not to say that a great many are there because of circumstances beyond their control. That's a fact. They're the ones that truly need our help and support. But quite a few people get themselves into a position where they find themselves caught in this state of existence, through their own stupidity and inaction to deal with problems they have. They'd rather run away from life than face it. Having problems with an addiction or whatever, being they're self inflicted, is no need to become homeless or poor. You only end up like that if you allow the addiction or whatever to take over. Those people need help, but they still need a kick in the rear end and have to face their lives for what they are. If after helping them out, they still continue down a self destructive path, then there's nothing you can do about it, and bemoaning some rich person buying a house for whatever amount of money isn't going to make things better. Obscene or not, it's their money and they can do with it what they like.
Putting it closer to home....people here spend thousands of dollars on telescopes and other equipment, sometimes yearly. What a waste of money...should be donated to charities looking after people less fortunate than ourselves.
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Originally Posted by fringe_dweller
i keep reading statistics that 1 in 3 and/or 1 in 5 australians will suffer mental illness in their lifetime, that seems pretty high, no?
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What of it. Doesn't mean we're all going to be homeless, or that every homeless person has mental illness. Many do....many don't.
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Originally Posted by fringe_dweller
if it wasnt for the 'poor people' buying their products, working in their business's or their customers customers at least, they wouldnt have a business either! and if it wasnt for the planets natural resources, which is a moot who actually owns that, individuals or countries/society, they again wouldnt have a business or a job either remember, 'all property is theft'  |
Now, we're being really facetious...this is getting silly. I'm trying to put across a fair argument and all I get back is circular arguments that devolve into silly comments.
Honestly, if anyone here finds that when someone who's worked for the wealth, instead of inheriting it or ripping people off, is somehow "immoral" just because they bought a house, then they should look closely at themselves. Quite frankly, it's the pot calling the kettle black in so far as expenditure goes. They can afford to buy their home, you go and put yourself into debt for 20-30 years in the hope of eventually paying it off. Then if, as in many cases, you can't pay it off because all you're doing is paying off interest and not the principle, and you lose the home, what do you say to your families then. When you just lost their roof over their heads.
What's more immoral, risking your family's security by buying into something you can't really afford, or having the money to just go and buy it because you've worked damn hard for it and managed to get lucky.