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Thanx Robh, I'm reading up on collimating, hope to get it out there, the telescope arrived at 3pm, we've got it all set up, it didn't make it under the christmas tree for long...hahahaha...anyway, will take some pictures of it and I can see some little breaks in the clouds, just hope it doesn't rain again...thanx for your advice...cheers and Merry Xmas
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