[davecambo (Dave)]

I started a thread about getting a telescope for beginning out, and was given good advise by a few people to get an 8" dob.

HOWEVER, if this is deemed too expensive by my wife for a start out telescope (around 4-500 are the prices on the links on this site for that telescope) is there a telescope for around say the 200 to 300 dollar mark that will allow me to see planet rings and satelites, moons and nebula etc? without being crap, if thats possible. obviously i understand the cheaper you go the more crap they get, but can you get something good enough for a beginner without being too basic to have to upgrade very soon.

thanks again in advance.

dave.