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Regardless of what you may think of Mark's assertions, Bert, what you have replied with here reeks of intellectual hubris and arrogance and really isn't called for in this forum. I know you have strong opinions on subjects like this, but whatever you may think of the subject matter, it doesn't make the people who believe in it fools, necessarily. They maybe misguided, yes, and many maybe ignorant of scientific "reality" but they only become fools when they persist in following a belief that is clearly been shown to be false. However, don't ever state that science has the only way to provide the answers we seek or that it is infallible. You say greater minds than ours have slowly extracted the truth from reality. Well I can say quite unequivocally that those minds (except for the most conceited and arrogant of them) would counter your statement by asking the question of you..."what's real to begin with??" They would also be mindful of the fact that nothing is written in stone and that they don't have all the answers, no matter what they believe in.
I will agree that science is far preferable to superstitious ignorance or educated ignorance but it is not the answer to everything. Delusion, Bert, is a multifaceted monster and an over confidence in science can be just as deluded as anything else. Being spiritual doesn't make you deluded. Many of the world's greatest scientists have a degree of spiritual belief, or a belief in a greater intelligence operating at some level, however they may have defined it. Some were actually quite religious. But they never let either science or spiritual belief act as antagonists. They knew when and where either or both were applicable and quite often integrated both where it was appropriate. But in the final analysis, they let both speak for themselves in their appropriate circumstances. Oh, and yes, some are/were atheists too, but that is just their own opinions...something we're all entitled to regardless of their efficacy.
It's upto you what you think you need to say or do, but I feel that an apology is in order here...not because of what or what not either of you may believe or not believe in, but because what you wrote was out of order.
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