The following are my opinions through my own observations and understanding, but for clarity I will talk in absolutes. This does relate to the thread.
I feel that there are phenomena which are absolute, there are phenomena which can be circumvented, and everything else comes down to how industrious the universe is and how we affect that plasticity.
The “absolute” phenomena seem to relate directly to providing some type of stability to the universe, such as conservation of charge and energy within a system, say; electron voltage, angular momentum, the inability to accelerate mass to LS and the quantization of energy and matter. I feel these may relate to a single physical mechanism or series of dynamically connected mechanisms which fed into each other: just like different stages in a jet engine (N1, N2, N3); they are not physically connected, they are Thermodynamically Coupled in that they share the same system energy, so one will affect the other in different ways.
The phenomena which may be “circumvented” seem to relate to interaction trends, such as conversion of energy to matter and back again, virtual particles and the flexibility of space and time. These seem to bend to the whim of the “absolute” phenomena, in that the rigidity of the “absolute” phenomena means that something has to give, something which does not directly affect the stability of reality.
The “everything else” is the plasticity and higher structures within the universe, such as formation of molecules, life etc. But these somehow feed directly into the “absolute” phenomena buy giving it direction on what reality is supposed to be.
What I have found is that freedom of choice, that is free-will, is not part of the universe which can be “circumvented” or “everything else” part. It belongs squarely as “absolute” phenomena. Remember when I quoted a passage about “obstructions” (pasted in at the bottom to refresh your memory), well I feel that the obstructions in geometry (mathematical), the obstructions in spacetime (geometrical Tidal Forces) are no more important than the obstructions of freedom of choice in a deterministic universe (particle/causal). These type of obstructions force the evolution of energy/matter/force into becoming our other phenomena, our “circumvented” and “everything else” stuff...the formation of diversity in our observable universe. It is built a certain way because the dynamism of energy is forced to work around these obstructions, and to do so in accordance with all of the “absolute” phenomena.
The passage at the bottom is a definition of curvature, a definition of general relativity and what I believe to be a definition of freedom of choice/free-will. All three - as well as others - are fundamental in the formation of OUR reality which we observe. When we dissect the universe, we fragment it also. This then creates (As David Bohm suggested) a broken wholeness. What is needed is a paralleling understanding, one which dissects and one which keeps track of the wholeness. Observable behavior then need to be explained both in terms of the physics and the wholeness…without both, it is incomplete. Which one is missing from science at the moment do you think??
Mathematics is merely what it is, a tool of language which allows us to convey information from one party to another. There does seem to be an underlying synergy between mathematics and the universe itself, but this DOES NOT mean that everything within the universe runs entirely on mathematical operators. The math helps us understand the universe, not the other way around. That’s something people really need to get into their heads.
I also find it funny that many people ridicule ideas and concepts about consciousness within physics, yet those same people, as with everyone else, use conscious awareness and consciousness to form their opinions and understanding in the first place…that’s a contradiction. I won’t even delve into the development of the human species and what part consciousness had to play in developing intelligence. I feel conscious awareness and consciousness is as fundamental to the universe as conservation of energy.
To me, there is an imbalance in science, it needs to be less left-brained and at the end of the day experimentation will verify what is real or not. We need only identify what is “absolute”, “circumvented”, and what is an industrious product of “everything else”.
Repeated passage:
In geometry, curvature may be defined as the mathematical obstruction within a curvilinear coordinate system, so that it cannot be transformed into a flat coordinate system. In the general theory of relativity, gravitation may be defined as the obstruction of tidal forces within a gravitational field, so that it cannot be transformed into a field of flat spacetime. Therefore, might our own destiny, as well as all others’, be defined as the obstruction of freedom of choice within a causal particle universe (the observer influence), so that it cannot be transformed into a purely deterministic reality? If true, then instigating these features, facilitating the diversity of all realities, is the central node. Astonishingly, it may well underpin the structure of mathematics itself.
Last edited by Nesti; 31-10-2009 at 02:34 PM.
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