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Old 12-10-2009, 07:19 PM
Nesti (Mark)
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Originally Posted by Bassnut View Post
Yes please . I havent got a clue what you guys are on about in the last few posts, so maybe in a way an average dummy can understand ? .
Steven is discussing the factual boundaries of GR as we currently understand it, and I can see his angle. I am trying to introduce other aspects which I feel needs to be addressed. It pertains to a reason for gravitation.

It's kind of like Newton's clockwork universe, where god created the universe, would it up, and set it in motion. Deterministic processes carry the evolution from there-on-in. BUT, freedom of choice (free will), consciousness and thought, have not been accounted for in such a system. Even Newton realised these things, and thought it may one day lead to athiesm.

For me, everything, every effect must be attributed to a cause, there is no independent self fulfilling system; everything must pertain to a common purpose or central reality.
All phenomena link together in a mutually conditioning network
Buddha, 500BC

The notion of a self fulfilling prophecy (General Relativity) makes no sense, it must have a purpose and a cause.

There is no mind absolute or free will, but the mind is determined for willing this or that by a cause which is determined in its turn by another cause, and this one again, by another, and so on to infinity.
Benedictus de Spinoza, 1673


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