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Old 03-10-2009, 11:38 AM
dpastern (Dave Pastern)
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Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes View Post
Most of the development of Stellarium is done in Linux where Command line operation is the order of the day but it is all done by volunteers who have to earn their living as well and it is supplied under the GPL licence which means it will always be free. This also means that proprietory databases cannot be used so we often need to tediously make our own from data that is available. (like the star data bases).

Barry
Barry - just to fix a few misconceptions - the GPL doesn't mean the software must be free (as in cost). You can charge for GPL'd software. What it does mean is that if you take GPL'd code and modify it and redistribute it, you must provide the src code for the modified software. I suspect that the LGPL would allow the usage of 3rd party proprietary databases as well.

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Originally Posted by chrisp9au View Post
But the process of editing and updating configuration and .ini files is like stepping back into the 1980's and the old DOS command line.
Come to think of it, Linux requires exactly the same sort of process! I keep dumping Linux as well!
A 21st century operating system shouldn't require the average user to understand and use a 'Terminal' to enter command line processes.

Cheers
Chris
Chris, I sort of understand your frustration with editing text files, but it's *not* that bad. Let's consider a few things:

a) Linux and UNIX are incredibly versatile. Windows has nothing like sed/gawk/wc/cut/sort for text streaming and editing. Either from the DOS command line or from a GUI.

b) not everything is easier from the GUI. As an example, try releasing the IP address from your network adaptor. From the GUI, it's a bunch of screens and clicks. From DOS, it's start > run type in cmd and hit enter, and then type ipconfig /release. It's far quicker and easier imho. Sometimes, a terminal is just both easier, and more powerful (and useful).

c) DOS is a pile of **** imho. Don't blame other command lines just because DOS is so bad ;-)

Dave

edit: without meaning to sound elitist, all of this "we must have options in the GUI" development in Linux is killing it imho. Linux has went downhill in the past 5 years imho, and it's mostly cos of these newbies who don't want to learn anything, and the community is catering to their needs instead of telling them that they need to be prepared to actually learn things. I have an intense dislike of Ubuntu and Gnome's dumbing down for the masses.
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