[Esseth (Alan)]

Yeah ill agree with the above posts, I started with a pair of 8x60’s and I had to buy a cheap tripod and a tripod mount(http://www.yorkoptical.com.au/ProductMenus/Binoculars/tabid/58/CategoryID/217/List/1/Level/a/ProductID/617/Default.aspx?SortField=Free3%2cUnit Cost) the following day because I just couldn’t keep them steady enough. However they are great to observe things while I’m waiting for either the scope to cool down or the sun to go down.

Also it was amazing to see Jupiter’s moons for the first time and if you are away from the light pollution it will get you a lot further than they did for me.