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Originally Posted by Robh
The push gravity model assumes an "ether" of randomly moving particles e.g. neutrinos. These particles exert pressure on bodies and the shielding of one body from another is what produces the gravitational effects. It is the physics of the push gravity model that lets it down ...
1. For it to work, particle collisions must be inelastic. Collisions of particles will result in excessive heating of bodies. An inexhaustible supply of particles are needed to maintain the ether.
2. Motions of bodies in the ether will result in frictional drag. This effect would reduce the distance between the Sun and the Earth.
3. Gravitational shielding, the basis of the theory, is inconsistent in that the shielding effects of many bodies does not produce the same gravitational forces as their overall mass implies.
4. Gravitational aberration occurs due to the finite speed of gravity. For example, as the Earth orbits the Sun, there is a time delay due to ether particles arriving from the Sun at older positions but not having arrived at newer positions. This acts to accelerate objects away from each other.
Regards, Rob
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All excellent points for consideration Rob.
Again I dont want to argue and I am not saying anything you raise is wrong or right but as long as you dont think I am being arguementative I will comment on each matter as best I can.. just appreciate that I may not be able to dispose of concerns in a simple reply and know that after I will read on the areas you raise.
Point one.. I agree. I think it may be the reason we have a Corona that is hotter than the surface of the Sun and to date no reasonable explaination why this may be so. It may be this point that offers explaination as to why the center of the Earth is hot... it may be the explanation as to why a critiacl mass of u235 or the like heats up... and this point has been raised before and I do wonder myself if there are places where this heating could be observed and perhaps a link determined..or not determined of course... for a guy with no experimental evidence I think about those crazy ideas... I would think if push works then if one had an extremely large block of anything then it should heat up at the center in much the same wat a neufcler fuel rod does... in otherwords maybe all things have in effect a critical mass...anyways I note I am speculating and know there is good and reliable science that has the atomic bomb working and the power plants and that neither fails to work because they dontr embrace push gravity... but you asked I gave you a responce dont get upset if you dont like it or disagree with it.
2. Should we look to see if that is happening?
Well my prediction that the pioneer would slow is very mush alined to what you suspect must happen with the SUn issue raised... I did think that if space pushed then the pioneer would slow because they would be subject to a drag that was not enecounted until they had left the heliospere and sought to contend with the space outside..which in my view will have more push and therefore drag.
3. Without using math I dont know... I will think about this.
4. Again I cant field that and will think about it.
So sorry I could not field points 3 and 4.
Thanks for pointing them out gives me something to work on and read upon.
alex
