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Originally Posted by multiweb
Well, just wow then!  The quality of the scope and camera just put everything into perspective. No way I could get 10min of data that good with no noise 
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Yes they are absolutely beautiful scopes and the Apogee U16M is a very nice camera too alhtough if I were buying again today I'd get the FLI Proline 16803 instead as it has better cooling. But I can upgrade the cooling on the U16M to match only it takes a bit longer to cool down. They have different cooling philosophies.
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Originally Posted by DavidU
Quality +
Quality gear
Very very nice !
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Thansk David. The gear makes it easy to be honest.
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Originally Posted by renormalised
Very nice shots there, Greg. The TEC's is somewhat sharper and has more detail. Colours seem a bit more intense too. An extra 40mm does work wonders. I'd be happy with either 
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The AP is more a wider field type scope but as Mike has shown with his 152 you can wrench a lot of detail out of that perfect lens.
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Originally Posted by strongmanmike
Nup hardly any difference from where I sit..?
So, no point in you having two scopes that deliver just about the same thing is there  ...so give the 180 to me please
Nice to see someone who loves refractors. I am sometimes a bit torn about which one to use. Thomas Davis has shown how nice the AP scopes are with the wide reducer/flattener. All I need is a run of nice weather down there and I can use both.
Mike
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Originally Posted by marki
Both images are great, be happy with half that, speaking of which Mike is just being greedy, I'll have the AP  .
Mark
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The AP is one mean purpose built no nonsense 30 years of know-how built into a scope. You'd be hard pressed to find anything wrong with it.
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Originally Posted by AlexN
Mark and Mike have got me laughing..  hahaha
In any case, given the short overall exposure times, they are both fantastic images... I'd be stoked to have something even remotely similar...
Let me just get this straight... The AP140 has a 100mm image circle? Are - You - Serious!?
Guess what is at the top of my list of "things I want" right about now? That and a camera housing a KAF-39000 or KAF-50100 sensor.... Granted the KAF-50100 only has a QE of 0.25%, I'd deal with taking 40min exposures if I was getting a 50 megapixel image, with a 61mm diagonal sensor size... The KAF-39000 might be better, same physical size, 39mp and 30% QE... all this being said the KAF-16803 is perhaps the most likely.. and with the same 60% QE as your U16M, should produce similar results..
Oh wow.. that was quite off topic  haha... my bad.. got caught up in dream land for a moment there...
Awesome images, Awesome scopes, Awesome processing...
Awesome!
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You got me excited about it now! There have been some images with the KAF39000 done by Richard Crisp. It comes only as a one shot colour and has super large files. The 16803 is the practical chip still.