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Old 06-08-2009, 11:39 AM
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Gravity does not Suck

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Originally Posted by renormalised View Post
Essentially, you want the flux of gravitons passing any particular unit area of your sphere. The equation for that I wrote in my last reply. However, what you will have to do here is knowing what the flux is, it will have to be multiplied by the varying wavelengths (hence energies) of all the gravitons passing through that unit area, because not all gravitons will have the same energies or wavelengths.

Big problem here....we don't know what the wavelengths for a graviton will be (except as a theoretical exercise) because we've never seen them in real life. We assume they may exist based on the outcomes of the Standard Model of Particle Physics and on QM models.

Then you have to explain why gravitons "push". You have to come up with the observational evidence and theoretical modeling which will support this contention and refute what is already known.
Thanks again Carl
I cant explain why anything would push I guess but I can not come close in an effort to expalin how attraction could work either I opt for push as I think it would be a one way message whereas attraction would seem to require a "message" and a "reply".

I dont seek to refute what is already known as I dont know all that is already known.
I have a simplistic view of how it may be ..I see "space time" as a grid and that there must be "something" that "bends" the grid and so my interest in what may be available in the physical.

I had given up on the gravity stuff but when Ron started the site I felt bound to keep going although in truth I have done little for the site he built and lost a bit of interest when we got our "Australias Leading Time Detective" as I felt that took us into a nutty realm... but in an effort to be oppen mined I did not offer any objection to his contributions even though the ideas I felt were beyond support.
I could not decry his input given my wild ideas and realise that I will be seen as similar given the off the wall ideas on gravity and my theory (idea) on everything.
I just want to know how everything works and how it works and no matter how much I read I find I end up with more questions when I started... a point covered yesterday.
I live in hope that before I pass away I will have all the answers as there probably wont be any for me when I am dead.

Rally mentioned the "strike rate" of nutrinos.

I suspect they probably are of a number we could reasonably consider for human purposes as infinite and even these would do nicely for the push concept..
I know they have vats of laundry fluid undergroud trying to see the odd one pass by as part of the dark matter investigations.

Thier limited interaction is what I need for the push gravity idea but no doubt they would not be exclusive.

Maybe I am hinting at the physical makeup of dark matter which I constantly write off as an invention to support the notion of, in my view, the mythical force of attraction.

And yes I have been living on the boat alone and scarring myself with ventures out to sea in contemplation of the intended trip up the coast... AND so sitting there when at anchor gives me more time to think maybe than is healty.

thanks again... it would appear that the list of questions from one question just keeps on growing.

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