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And to perhaps end this thread I would just like to congratulate everyone for managing 30 posts on Bob's Knob's without a single 'knob' joke! I don't know about anyone else, but I've found it quite hard!
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Dobs Knobs cant be that hard,
you should try an SCT when you cant reach yr knobs whilst looking into the EP.
However, it is much easier if you stick a bicycle spoke into the side of yr Knob first
Stop thinking those thoughts and look at the piccy.
Andrew